Sunday, August 10, 2008

No Quarter & Texas Darlin Report Birth Certificate w Last Name Soetoro, Not Obama--Obama May Have Been Concealing His Adopted Name

Larry Johnson (h/t Bob Robbins) of No Quarter USA whom I had heard on Friday had obtained a copy of Barack Obama's birth certificate visited Hawaii this past weekend. He now blogs that Mr. Obama may have Indonesian citizenship and that he has links to Pakistan as well, as well as Kenyan citizenship. Johnson goes on to add:

"Did I also mention how small Hawaii is? Republican operatives, with help from their own island backers, have unearthed critical information on Obama and are just biding their time until after the convention to drop it on him. Such as? Having a birth certificate that lists you as Barry Soetoro.

"Barack aka Barry Soetoro might have escaped scrutiny back in 1960 when there was no internet. Controlling information back then was so much easier. Not today. It is there for the taking and the Democrats foolishly chose to trust this clown just as they trusted John Edwards."

Whether these are accurate claims will be confirmed in time. There are increasingly serious accusations about Mr. Obama's integrity and his past. Allegations about multiple citizenships and his failure to reveal his birth certificate.

TexasDarlin adds:

"For those who have not followed this story, Soetoro is the name on Obama’s Birth Certificate (BC) because a new BC was issued when he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro, his step-father. His original BC, which we assume was issued for Barack Hussein Obama at birth, would have been sealed at that time.

"We assert that Barry Soetoro acquired Indonesian citizenship in approximately 1965-1966, and may still hold it. Barack Obama possibly changed his legal name back to Barack Hussein Obama as an older child, teenager, or adult, possibly never did — but even if he did, this procedure would not result in a change to the BC.

"The Birth Certificate published by Obama on his campaign website (still there, by the way) and distributed to the media was forged because the real BC on file is in the name Soetoro, an identity he apparently wanted to hide from the American people.

"I am getting reports from different sources that Obama traveled to Pakistan in ‘81 with an Indonesian passport."

TexasDarlin comments that the concealment and dual citizenship may pose legal as well as political problems: "Article II of the constitution requires the POTUS and Commander-in-Chief to have only ONE loyalty to country, and that must be to the US."

This episode reveals much about the mainstream media (MSM), as alot of people have been commenting. This epic scandal has not been treated on any of the MSM television channels or the major market newspapers. It is as though the institutiton of the press has decided to make itself irrelevant and bloggers and other informal sources are filling the gaps.

This is one more piece of evidence of a more general institutional breakdown in the United States. The Fed subsidizes investment banks for tens of billions of dollars without even masking the subsidies with claims of public interest concerns. Special interests dominate Washington. The media is inept and partisan, unwilling to tell the truth or even make inquiries about a major candidate. Elections are managed in an incompetent way so that boards of elections and the Federal Elections Commission do not verify candidates' claimed identities.

8 comments:

Ray said...

The Texasdarlin blog became unavailable to a few posters a few minutes ago. Can anyone else access it?

Ray

Koyaan said...

Nope. Even called a friend of mine and had him try. No go.

You can set a WordPress blog so that it's only visible to visitors you choose, but if you're looking to reach out to the public, doing that wouldn't make much sense.

Another possibility is that someone complained to WordPress and they shut it down for a Terms of Service violation or something.

Dunno. Have to wait and see if word about it pops up elsewhere like NoQuarter.

k

Ray said...

koyaan wrote:

You can set a WordPress blog so that it's only visible to visitors

I thought a notice was displayed if that was the case. The TD site doesn't have one.

Ray

Ray said...

"Did I also mention how small Hawaii is? Republican operatives, with help from their own island backers, have unearthed critical information on Obama and are just biding their time until after the convention to drop it on him. Such as? Having a birth certificate that lists you as Barry Soetoro.

Ah, but Obama's passport, which is of a much higher grade than normal, could not have been obtained without a birth certificate, so whatever he is pretending to have in relation to birth certificates discovered is worthless.

That writer sounds like a real drama queen. You'd never reckon that he'd held such good jobs in the past.

Ray

Mitchell Langbert said...

Ray, not worthless. The problem is that Mr. Obama has refused to reveal the information despite repeated requests. He is a sneak. The problem is not whether is name is Soetoro or Obama.

Ray said...

Mitchell Langbert said...

Ray, not worthless. The problem is that Mr. Obama has refused to reveal the information despite repeated requests. He is a sneak. The problem is not whether is name is Soetoro or Obama.

Can we move this forward beyond the allegation stage and show HOW Obama "refused"?

I haven't seen a word anywhere that indicates that the allegation is true. We could all list many things that people have failed to do, or declined to do, but that's not the same as refusing to do.

Personally I think that Obama, in these circumstances, ought to refuse to do anything more than is required by law, in order to further demonstrate that he has a backbone and can play the sort of brinkmanship that he will need to play if he wins.

It would be totally different story if a significant number of ordinary citizens (including the non-antagonistic ones) were showing genuine doubts about his eligibility, and if they were expressing a lack of confidence in an array of government agencies who have handled his citizenship details for decades.

Yes, if they felt they needed to bypass the ordinary rule of law and see for themselves, and not trust their politicians to ensure he was eligible, then Obama should deal directly with them.

It seems that on one hand we have a small bunch of activists who insist on the law being observed in relation to Obama's eligibility, but on the other hand they want to use some sort of mini-mob rule and bypass the laws and their politicians.

The same principle applies here as if some activists had claimed that Obama must have cheated on his tax returns because a few things didn't add up. Normally government officials would be perusing the relevant documents and NOT the activists.

Ray

Mitchell Langbert said...

Ray writes:

"Personally I think that Obama, in these circumstances, ought to refuse to do anything more than is required by law, in order to further demonstrate that he has a backbone and can play the sort of brinkmanship that he will need to play if he wins."

You're urging that he duplicate the strategy of Richard M. Nixon before he was impeached. At that time, the left argued that hiding behind legal rules was "slippery" and unethical. I agreed vis-a-vis President Nixon and I agree vis-a-vis Barack Obama. If a democratic process is to work, candidates ough to be expected to show good faith, not hide behind legal rules. There is now evidence that Mr. Obama has indeed been lying.

Ray said...

Mitchell Langbert said...

Ray writes:

"Personally I think that Obama, in these circumstances, ought to refuse to do anything more than is required by law, in order to further demonstrate that he has a backbone and can play the sort of brinkmanship that he will need to play if he wins."


You're urging that he duplicate the strategy of Richard M. Nixon before he was impeached. At that time, the left argued that hiding behind legal rules was "slippery" and unethical. I agreed vis-a-vis President Nixon and I agree vis-a-vis Barack Obama. If a democratic process is to work, candidates ought to be expected to show good faith, not hide behind legal rules. There is now evidence that Mr. Obama has indeed been lying

When people are faced with an unending string of false and unsubstantiated allegations and smears, it is crazy NOT to use every legal trick in the book.

Let's not forget that the legal tricks used in politics are often stemming from journalistic tricks so the defenders play the "tricks" game - and good on them - all of them, whoever they are.

On the other hand, if politicians are asked genuine and up-front RELEVANT questions, they should answer them properly.

Ray