From: Trudi Elias
To: mlangbert@hvc.rr.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 5:28 AM
Subject: Obama
"No, I don't work for Tony Soprano, and, yes, I am an excellent expert witness." Yeah right!!1!!
But yes, I am sure you were dodgy in your past, and I bet if one investigates you we would come up with a whole load of crimes that you have commited. Don't start pretending you are clean, cause you are not and don't look at people's skin colour but what they can do. John McCain's parents originally came from Scotland in Europe why don't you vet him on that, o no we can't do that cause he is white and you are white too. DON'T BE A RACIST AND STOP YOUR SMEARS.
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I've been wondering - do we have any sort of definition for "hate mail" and "smears"?
Yes, mail from a stranger that expresses hate is hate-mail. Do we have an explanation as to why so many of B.O.'s followers indulge in hate, Ray?
I tend to treat only the very extreme comments - either criminal or bordering on it as being hateful. I rarely use the word and have never even contemplated practising it myself. It seems to be as bad for one's brain as using too much alcohol or drugs.
Obama followers and hate?
I haven't noticed anything on the blogs that's been too far over the top since I've been here for a few months, but I've mainly been following the COLB stuff and not the general topics.
Still, I've been de-sensitized to a large extent by having mixed with some extremely nasty individuals on the net, so it's like water off a duck back to me now.
I can certainly sense the hatred or craziness, but a lot of posters are pretty cunning about the way they actually express it, so it's a bit hard to nail them for it.
Ray
Trudi, You are truly pathetic!
One has to wonder 'how anyone could consider the simple act of requiring ALL U.S. presidential candidates to prove their eligibility with proper documentation to somehow be "a smear"'? As citizens, we are required to show our ID for the most mundane of things, but somehow it's not OK to ask presidential candidates?
Trudi Elias is not someone that is interested in actual facts that might hurt her guy Obama. The comments are the rantings of an hysteric. On a side note, Trudi's inventive screen name reminds me of the same cuteness that went into the "Haye I.B Ahphorgerie" faked COLB. I wonder if they are one and the same person?
What Obama supporters should be asking their candidate to do when they hear about the current story percolating in the blogosphere, is "why don't you just produce a paper certificate that will end this as an issue?
I see no upside for Mr. Obama's stonewalling because Ms. Clinton is waiting in the wings for him to fall and this story is giving her supporters "hope" going into the Dem's convention. Not a very wise political move on his part. I also believe he has painted himself into a corner with the "fight the smears" COLB because if it turns out to be a forgery (which I believe it to be in my own humble opinion), then he has some serious explaining to do with the American public. But I doubt he'll ever explain anything. If he is exposed perpetrating a lie, he's done.
Somehow, I suspect that Mr. Obama already has a legal case, arguments and precedents prepared that would support his eligibility once the incriminating information made it's way to the MSM. My guess is that he was hoping that the only time he'd have to use his prepared case was after he became president. That way we could all get dragged through this process with him as he refused to resign.
Mitchell, I think you are doing an outstanding job in the letters you have written to government officials and posted on your blog so far. I also feel that you are taking a very evenhanded/fair approach.
But no matter what, if, (and I think it is more a question of "when" instead of "if") Obama is forced to withdraw because it is proven he is ineligible, people like Trudi will still blame people like you and me who simply want the truth to prevail.
richard said...
One has to wonder 'how anyone could consider the simple act of requiring ALL U.S. presidential candidates to prove their eligibility with proper documentation to somehow be "a smear"'?
No, they certainly shouldn't be calling a normal legal process like that a smear; in fact it's a completely illogical use of the word.
A smear is a malicious allegation which has been badly woven together with bits of truth in it to make it look real.
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I see no upside for Mr. Obama's stonewalling because Ms. Clinton is waiting in the wings for him to fall and this story is giving her supporters "hope" going into the Dem's convention.
Well she could still get in anyway because the nominee for the Democrats hasn't been decided yet, but if that happened I wouldn't be surprised if he spat the dummy and stood as an independent. If he did that (with his current 25% black + white Republican votes and 25% black + white Democrat votes) Hillary and McCain could share the other two 25% of white votes between them. That way the Democrats would effectively get 75% unless he did a deal with McCain to form a coalition.
I also believe he has painted himself into a corner with the "fight the smears" COLB because if it turns out to be a forgery (which I believe it to be in my own humble opinion), then he has some serious explaining to do with the American public.
What - before he goes to jail for fraud? Prisoners have no obligation to explain things at that late stage.
Somehow, I suspect that Mr. Obama already has a legal case, arguments and precedents prepared that would support his eligibility once the incriminating information made it's way to the MSM.
Yes, an airtight one - like his COLB is real.
Don't you realize that the spokesperson for Hawaii Health told Politifact on 18th June that his COLB is real. He also holds a high-grade passport which can only be issued after extremely thorough background checks. He certainly hasn't been naturalized so the passport is effectively saying that he is a "natural born citizen".
Ray
IT SAD DAY IN AMERICA WHEN THE BIGGIEST ELECTION WAS NOTHING BUT A RACAL ELECTION. IT SAD TO SEE SO MANY BLACK US CITIZENS VOTE FOR OBAMA NOT KNOWING WHAT FOR. OBAMA RAISES TAXS ON THE WEALTHY AND COMPANIES, COMPANIES WILL EITHER REDUCE WORKFORCE OR CLOSE THE DOORS. THEN ALL OF THE LOWER AND MIDDLE CLASS THAT VOTED FOR OBAMA WILL END UP WORSE THAN EVER BEFORE. THIS WAS A RACIAL ELECTION AND NOTHING TO DO ABOUT OUR COUNTRY!
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